This would probably be reason #153 as to why I love Rachel Maddow. On the show where she interviewed Rand Paul she did hammer him over and over again about whether a private business has the right to deny service to anyone it sees fit, and Rand Paul countered that if you can tell a business who they can and can’t serve, then you can limit speech, etc. For Paul and libertarians, if they’re real libertarians, any government interference is unwelcome. For people like Maddow and myself, government sometimes needs to step in and accomplish what we cannot on our own. There are times when society moves to slow, and we ask our elected representatives to pass laws to move us a little bit further along. This is what it means to be a Progressive. See the video below
Libertarians have an odd sort of attraction to both the left and the right. The right because they favor limited government interference, however for Republicans that usually only means limited interference in business. A libertarian, however, would never approve of a marriage amendment or spending on abstinence only education. This is why some liberals fall for libertarian ideas, because libertarians favor the repeal of drug laws and wouldn’t ban gay marriage, because both those are limits on individual freedom.
The flip side is they believe people should be free without limits. That sounds like a good thing, because it’s only words. It’s philosophy without any grounding in fact. What Rachel Maddow attempted to show was the dark side to this unlimited freedom. No government interference means that businesses can discriminate against anyone they see fit. They can choose to pay women less for the same jobs, they can fire gays for no reason, they can dump toxic waste where they see fit, they can lie in advertising, they don’t have to run safety tests on their products, they don’t have to prepare food in sanitary ways, etc.
Here's Rachel Maddow the next day:
Rand Paul and others try to argue that we don’t need the federal government to tell us that racism is wrong, but Woolworth’s wasn’t going to desegregate on its own and if it did, it would have been decades later. Belief that business will act in its self interest and create safe products is not true. We had an oil spill in the gulf and it was most likely due to a business seeking to skirt the safety standards of the United States. (and of course Rand Paul defended them as well.) What more proof do you need to know that businesses will not do what is in the best interests of anyone but themselves. Price gouging is against the law because if it wasn’t PEOPLE WOULD DO IT!
If we lived in small communities libertarianism might work. In a small community any business that acted inappropriately could be ostracized and shamed by that community, but we live in a vast nation. We have corporations that took money from people, then took money from the federal government when it mismanaged that first set of money and had the audacity to give its members bonuses. They feel no shame. What can the people do when they have no individual power? They can use their power, through their elected representatives to pass laws to ensure that it can’t happen again. Essentially saying, we allowed you freedom, and you’ve proven you cannot be trusted. Much the way your parents imposed stricter rules on you as a teen when you stayed out past curfew or were caught drinking. Most people think of the government as an outside force, when in fact it is comprised of people just like us (though some more arrogant and greedy, sure), who were hired to do what we ask them to. It isn’t always perfect, and they don’t always come through, but I’d rather have them trying than the libertarian ideal of no one trying at all.
Libertarians have an odd sort of attraction to both the left and the right. The right because they favor limited government interference, however for Republicans that usually only means limited interference in business. A libertarian, however, would never approve of a marriage amendment or spending on abstinence only education. This is why some liberals fall for libertarian ideas, because libertarians favor the repeal of drug laws and wouldn’t ban gay marriage, because both those are limits on individual freedom.
The flip side is they believe people should be free without limits. That sounds like a good thing, because it’s only words. It’s philosophy without any grounding in fact. What Rachel Maddow attempted to show was the dark side to this unlimited freedom. No government interference means that businesses can discriminate against anyone they see fit. They can choose to pay women less for the same jobs, they can fire gays for no reason, they can dump toxic waste where they see fit, they can lie in advertising, they don’t have to run safety tests on their products, they don’t have to prepare food in sanitary ways, etc.
Here's Rachel Maddow the next day:
Rand Paul and others try to argue that we don’t need the federal government to tell us that racism is wrong, but Woolworth’s wasn’t going to desegregate on its own and if it did, it would have been decades later. Belief that business will act in its self interest and create safe products is not true. We had an oil spill in the gulf and it was most likely due to a business seeking to skirt the safety standards of the United States. (and of course Rand Paul defended them as well.) What more proof do you need to know that businesses will not do what is in the best interests of anyone but themselves. Price gouging is against the law because if it wasn’t PEOPLE WOULD DO IT!
If we lived in small communities libertarianism might work. In a small community any business that acted inappropriately could be ostracized and shamed by that community, but we live in a vast nation. We have corporations that took money from people, then took money from the federal government when it mismanaged that first set of money and had the audacity to give its members bonuses. They feel no shame. What can the people do when they have no individual power? They can use their power, through their elected representatives to pass laws to ensure that it can’t happen again. Essentially saying, we allowed you freedom, and you’ve proven you cannot be trusted. Much the way your parents imposed stricter rules on you as a teen when you stayed out past curfew or were caught drinking. Most people think of the government as an outside force, when in fact it is comprised of people just like us (though some more arrogant and greedy, sure), who were hired to do what we ask them to. It isn’t always perfect, and they don’t always come through, but I’d rather have them trying than the libertarian ideal of no one trying at all.